Someone presented an interesting question to Joy: Can God be in the presence of sin? So we dive into what that particular question is in reference to, what we know about God’s holiness, omnipresence, omniscience, and Summer talks tabernacle things. Then we answer an adorable voicemail with a question about essential oils, and we follow up on some concerns about our episode on food with Douglas Wilson.

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3:30 Summer wants to know how to handle a very excited & sweet five-year-old with no paper mâché skills who insists on making you a piñata. 

11:00 Joy explains why we want to answer the question, “Can God be in the presence of sin?”
14:27 The verse that brings this up is Habakkuk 1:13, because it says that God cannot look at evil. How do we understand that in context?
18:20 The context of Habakkuk and the focus of the book are something we should be familiar with, and helps answer this question.
28:37 A quick discussion on the tabernacle, and what it can tell us about God’s presence and holiness.
32:15 We answer a voicemail question from listeners in Turkey about essential oils and why we don’t like recommending things.
44:18 We answer questions and concerns that were brought to us about our episode with Doug Wilson on food. Do we care if you have allergies? Do we really think Twinkies are good for you? What does Doug mean by “God doesn’t care what you eat”?



  1. Mikayla

    I am so happy you came back to the topic! After listening to the episode I was left with a few questions because I do have allergies. It was convicting for me personally! I thought some of the insight was so good – but I left the conversation wondering some of what you are touching on in this episode. AWESOME! 🙂

  2. Tami

    Wait. I am 50 years old. I have had a personal relationship with Jesus for over 40 years. I thought the whole reason Jesus made atonement for our sins was to please the Father. To pay for our sins. If God CAN see, be around, etc. etc.., sin, then why was it necessary for Jesus to take our sins upon Himself? Now. I will, of course, continue be to study this question on my own. And I am confident that the Holy Spirit will show me Biblically where I may be in error. Just because I think it doesn’t make it true,, boy do I know that. Lol! So I will search the Word. But, just in case there was anyone else out there where the whole purpose for salvation was brought into question, I thought I’d leave a comment. Also. I love listening to your podcast! I am a Pastor’s wife and I find that I often refer to thoughts from my time with you two in the mornings as I prepare for work. Thank you for being faithful.

    • Tami

      Just a follow up….
      Got it! It’s not for HIS benefit that we need Christ’s atonement. It’s for ours! We cannot stand before the Holy and Just God and live. Praise God for His plan of redemption. Blessings, Tami

  3. Carla

    My solution to the endless crafts and pictures is to let the kids photograph them and then we get rid of them. I now have 80 Billion photos of scribbles and block towers but the kids are happy.

    • Scarletpimpernel85

      I use this technique to get rid of junk of my own, like shoes that are so worn I can’t wear them but were so faithful I feel sad tossing them! I definitely anthropomorphize too much.

  4. Jennifer

    As to the prevalence of this teaching… I just drove by a church sign that says, “The Holy Spirit cannot survive in a sinful environment.” Yikes! If man could kill God by his own sinfulness, we would be without hope for sure. Praise God that it is He who saves US from sin and not the other way around!

  5. Kimberly Yates

    I am listening to this podcast right this minute and just have to comment re: the pinata farm with the newborn pinatas! So cute! But also disturbing…newborn pinatas that we go adopt to then bludgeon when they reach maturity xD I am enjoying you ladies and your podcasting!


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